On this episode of the podcast, Steve Suthers and Blake Burnard explore the importance of personal responsibility and accountability. They reference Lane Kiffin's quote about one of his defensive tackles taking a two-week mental health break, and how it reflects on the young man's state of mind. They discuss the importance of not allowing the habit of quitting to manifest in children, and how a lack of a strong male role model in the home can lead to a lack of backbone and an increased likelihood of quitting. Additionally, they emphasize the importance of prayer and how it can help us in our daily lives.
[00:00:00] Family Thanksgiving drama: Moist steamy pocket of goodness.
[00:02:26] Eat or be eaten: Thanksgiving.
[00:04:43] Love-hate Thanksgiving; foodie professional eater.
[00:07:57] Drink water, take nap, avoid hunger.
[00:11:14] Coach worries for players' safety, parents called. Six words: Coach cares, parents called, safety first.
[00:14:47] No dad, no quitting: broken families.
[00:17:42] Raise a man, don't coddle him.
[00:20:30] Major Power Five schools support athletes.
[00:24:23] Face problems, don't quit. [00:27:17] Trust God, release poison, ask for understanding.
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Speaker Steve Suthers: And he would not leave myself.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Does Richard's bark a lot? Not they don't they, like, like, it's like a guttural? Yes. Okay. Yeah. So they're
Speaker Steve Suthers: not Yip yap dogs. It's like I forgot it was AJ's one year.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Birthday?
Speaker Steve Suthers: No. Anthony's been dead for a full year.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Who's Anthony?
Speaker Steve Suthers: Rumbled. My male dog's rumbles dog.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Oh, gotcha.
Speaker Steve Suthers: So that's his dog. And I was like, because he I was really tripping out. I was like, man, that's odd. That's odd. That's odd. That's odd. Why? And she was like, come on, come on. He was like, no. I'm not
Speaker Blake Burnard: One year. On here.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Alright. Leave it. Take us to the promised land, sir.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Guys, Tuesday night. What is it? November fourteenth. It's almost turkey day. We're coming live and direct. Oh. This is must matters. Yeah. Go ahead.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Therapy I need to go to for Turkey day. Like, bad, like, from years ago when I was, like, like, my mom hurt me. Oh, no. When we when she first got with my pops. I come from a very huge family when we get together. Suthers family, they cook my aunts, my great aunts, my they close where you get the legs from? Oh, my god. They have restaurants. I used to get my own pot of gumbo. I used to get my own pot of, dumplings. It was mine because I ate. So the first year that my mom and my dad seriously got serious, she goes, you can't go home. I go, you mean I can't go home. It's turkey day. I'm going home for turkey day. She said, you can't go home. You gotta stay here. And I go, no, I I gotta pot Dumplings, and I have gumbo. I got food that they they my family feeds me. And, so she she said, well, they're gonna make you dumplings. They go make your own product dumplings. And I was like, Alright. Love my mother. My pops, I love my pops. And I was like, alright, cool. I'll stay. Now my pops, his family's okay. They're from Oklahoma. Apparently, dumplings are completely different in Oklahoma than the rest of the world.
Speaker Blake Burnard: What's the difference?
Speaker Steve Suthers: Well, describe a dumpling.
Speaker Blake Burnard: I don't know. Moist steamy pocket of goodness.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Bread, right?
Speaker Blake Burnard: Yeah. It's pretty. Yeah. One hundred percent.
Speaker Steve Suthers: I got I got turkey lizard, the gizzard, turkey liver, eggs, boiled eggs and gravy.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Oh, dude.
Speaker Steve Suthers: And they poured that onto my plate. And I was like
Speaker Blake Burnard: That's the dust bowl.
Speaker Steve Suthers: I was just like, what is this? You gotta eat it all that made you your own pot. I'm like, I'm not eating
Speaker Blake Burnard: that at all. Not an obligation. They were gonna make you eat it.
Speaker Steve Suthers: That's what my mom, oh, my, you know, my mom, let my family go play. Don't get up off that table. Speaker Blake Burnard: If it's in front of you, you gotta face it.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Don't shut that table boy.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Is it a respect thing?
Speaker Steve Suthers: It's I said so thing.
Speaker Blake Burnard: That's why we don't waste anything, things.
Speaker Steve Suthers: No. I said thing.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Yes. Understood.
Speaker Steve Suthers: When my grandma used to make liver, and I'd be like, oh, you make a steak show. Yeah, baby. And I sit down to have a bite and I'd be like, he's liver.
Speaker Blake Burnard: She was really chewy.
Speaker Steve Suthers: You're gonna eat that. I'd be sitting there little six year old tears coming. Oh, shoot. You weren't I wasn't getting about that table.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Well, that makes eating as a body builder a lot easier. I'm sure. Sure.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Or,
Speaker Blake Burnard: your tuna cans and, dude. It all pales in comparison to that. Yes. Okay. Here's the question about Thanksgiving. Are you a turkey or a ham guy?
Speaker Steve Suthers: Turkey.
Speaker Blake Burnard: It's okay to be wrong.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Turkey.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Why?
Speaker Steve Suthers: Because I could take a fat nap after I'm done eating.
Speaker Blake Burnard: No. No. No. No. No. No. That's the that's the that's the stuffing.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Well, I've never really for me, pork, that that, that ham never thrilled me. I didn't like the texture of ham. I didn't like the saltiness of the ham. I didn't. So I guess I I came from a family that I mean, my family owned, like, several restaurants, so they could get down. And I never Pam
Speaker Blake Burnard: just never did
Speaker Steve Suthers: it. Never did it.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Well, then I'm I'm assuming that if they own restaurants, and they were decent chefs. They could keep a turkey moist. I, like okay. My family's not created that. It always comes out dry. Have you seen, nationally in Poose Christmas vacation where they pull it, Turkey out. They stick a fork in a in a combust, and it's literally like just empty. That's what my family's sorry, mom, dad. I doubt to listening
Speaker Steve Suthers: to this. My buddy, Leon Denweed, Dionweets' good cooking. It's over there on, F Street. He, deep fries Turkey every year.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Now, that I can do. My family is white. We do not deep fry anything. Well, we're terrified by the YouTube video, sorry.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Oh, I was never doing because I'd bring the house down here. Speaker Blake Burnard: Yeah. Oh, one hundred percent.
Speaker Steve Suthers: It'd be like fourth of July all over again. It goes to Turkey. Oh my goodness.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Yeah. Thanksgiving's, an interesting holiday for me. It's kind of a love hate thing. Christmas is close, because food wise, I don't go for the main dishes. It's, I I'm not partial turkey or ham if I had to choose one. I'd I'd say ham, but only because it goes great mixed with everything else. The turkey is just like, dude, you can't doctor that thing.
Speaker Steve Suthers: And and but that's what I was saying. Like my uncle owned a barbecue restaurant, he owned a soul food restaurant. So they would be turkey and ham there, but fat boy had his bought of gumbo.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Yes, right.
Speaker Steve Suthers: That's right. That's right. A little turkey here and there, and and and dressing.
Speaker Blake Burnard: And a bowl big enough to fit it all in there. Oh, my use I don't make sure those little dixie bowls.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Oh, man. They would be like, you get away. They would literally your pots over there, fat boy.
Speaker Blake Burnard: So guys, if you were wondering how Steve maintains impeccable figure,
Speaker Steve Suthers: yes. I am a foodie professional eater.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Now today, well, this weekend, okay, after Olmett well, no. This was probably before Olmiss's game, this weekend. Lane Kiffin had an awesome quote, in response to one of his defensive tackles. And Steve sent me this. He goes, man, What do you think? Blaine Kiffin, basically, those of you guys don't know. He's the head coach full miss. And, one of their, I don't know I don't know what role he played on the on the defense.
Speaker Steve Suthers: I I I don't know
Speaker Blake Burnard: if he's a starter or what. Yeah. But he took a two week The media calls this a mental health break, but Steve clarified. The kid disappears.
Speaker Steve Suthers: You just walked off. He just he he wasn't the text messages. He wasn't responding to phone calls. Not,
Speaker Blake Burnard: Did he come back?
Speaker Steve Suthers: Yes. The video Right. To videotape the conversation with the coach.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Oh my goodness. Okay. Well, that tells everything. If if if you've ever, dealt with people, I think we all agree that kinda tells you everything you know about the young man. Right? And probably what what he was, you know, where his head was at
Speaker Steve Suthers: was at. Well, the sad thing is anybody who's played alright. High school coaches kinda cussed you out. Kinda kinda kinda, kinda. But when you get to that next level, can you tell me how many times I got kicked in the butt? Get your butt up out of there. Get out get out of my huddle. It it caught every name in the book. You're gonna hurt my linemen, but just laid out.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Oh, you're an adult. And Yeah. You're you're bearing the goal.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Bottle filling.
Speaker Blake Burnard: No. And you've got dollars attached to your name. Right? And if you are expendable, they can find another one Yes. Another fifteen. Another Suthers hundred Yes. Better than you. Suthers are no, punches held back in college football. Now this was laying Kiffin's quote in response to that situation. I don't give a flying flip for we'll we'll, do a lot of asterisks in there. And and we'll just We're
Speaker Steve Suthers: keeping it family We
Speaker Blake Burnard: don't I don't give a flip what your mom says in the real world. You show up to work. What are your thoughts, Steve?
Speaker Steve Suthers: Number one, how did your mom get in the conversation? And I'm being a jerk because I know I'm under I I remember I had a very well paying job. I was working in the oil fields, and, I had a lot of fun on a Saturday night. I woke up on Sunday, and I called my mommy. I said, Hey, mom, let me hold twenty bucks so I can get something to eat. You know what she told me? Drink some water, take a nap. You won't be hungry when you wake up.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Dude, I so I didn't grow up in a in a rough, rough home. In fact, we were really well off. I didn't really realize until later in life, you know. I never went without my parents were not I don't have stories like that. They were not abnormally tough on me. I just never asked. Like, I it I can't even put my my my finger on why that is. Right? I think it just kinda got a more independent personality. I would never ask mom to come in on on a conversation like that. And if you do, again, guys, it says a lot about who we're dealing with here.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Well, how you gonna make it to the next level?
Speaker Blake Burnard: There's no way.
Speaker Steve Suthers: I mean, right now, that young man has a huge red flag against him. He would have to go out and just be The second coming of Reggie White on the defensive line, just to sniff the NFL right now, because they It's a job.
Speaker Blake Burnard: I mean, this has this is nowhere near, that situation, but you remember, like, you know, the bulb trip triplets. Right? The the not triplets. I'm sorry. The three ball brothers that went in the NBA. Every team, you know, I mean, it doesn't matter really how good you are. You're taking on the con act of the son and the dad.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Yeah. It's
Speaker Blake Burnard: like, who wants to deal with that?
Speaker Steve Suthers: Yes. Yes. And that that's what I mean. I if I committed to something, My mom made sure I was there. There wasn't no way of answering the butt. What's wrong, boy? I don't wanna do it. You committed. Right? Yeah. You signed up for that. Right?
Speaker Blake Burnard: Yeah.
Speaker Steve Suthers: And don't heaven forbid, I she spent some money. My mom would be looking at me like, you said a house, boy? You can go get my house.
Speaker Blake Burnard: That's right. And you know what's what the interesting thing about this is is it lacks you know, accountability. Right? So, okay, from a leader. Alright? I told you before we went on air. I recently had to let go of an employee who was not dependable. He did not see, you know, his role as part of a team. He was thinking of himself, the individual. Number one, I mean, like, it it was pretty evident early on. The kid didn't like doing hard things. And so as a result, every time he got a little stuffy nose, you know, or or stubbed his toe that other employees that literally like, they're like, hey, I I was helping my grandma move. Off the couch on my foot, and I'm, like, limping around. I got, I'm, like, okay. Why got coaches that show up in a wheelchair? You know what I mean? And, like, long story short, it you'll find any reason out. This might be an unpopular opinion. I hope I don't get hate mail over this, but I'm like, I don't I don't believe that every everything that kids claim these days in the name of like mental health, mental illness, depression, anxiety, all these things. It's not always real. And some of it I guarantee you is. Right? Like, there are people out there with chemical imbalances that we just can't explain and science isn't even close to understanding. I wanna tread lightly here. However, that I know a lot of people that just use that as an out.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Yes. Because they don't wanna do anything. Alright. So The fact that the coach is like, we've all seen players just not show up anymore. I did it in college. I just went on, I'm done. And I left. But the fact that the coach was calling him means that he was good enough where the coach was like, Hey, son, because they really don't care. They'll call your parents and be like this. Hey, such a shuttches in here. Oh, he's at home.
Speaker Blake Burnard: How about as a coach that pours everything he's got into that locker room and was probably worried sick about his health?
Speaker Steve Suthers: Well, I'm sure he called the pants.
Speaker Blake Burnard: You just saw what happened to those, to those, Virginia? Virginia tech? What was it? Those players, those three boys got a car accident?
Speaker Steve Suthers: Yes.
Speaker Blake Burnard: That stuff happens.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Yes.
Speaker Blake Burnard: They never get to go home to the parents. Right? Like, how do we know as as, as father figures as mentors to these kids and no one knows what that kid's home situation was? Like, he was probably, sick to death over him. I know that my coaches would worry about me.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Well, you, you get day one, and you're gonna look at the teammates. Hey, where where's my bat? Oh, he he I don't know. Okay. Cool.
Speaker Blake Burnard: That's a completely different thing skipping out on a locker room.
Speaker Steve Suthers: And now they're gonna look, you know, they're gonna look at the they're gonna look at one of the captains or one of the players go, hey, If you run bubble down by date, two or three, it's now like, crap. Now, you know, the first conference call is to the to the security.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Yeah. Because the
Speaker Steve Suthers: last call you wanna do, and it's it's the most important call, but the last call you wanna do is the parents. Yeah. Because now I have to tell the parent, I've lost your son.
Speaker Blake Burnard: And I wonder if that's when mom got involved, right? And that's She's, like, always home.
Speaker Steve Suthers: And that so at that point, okay. He's home. Okay. Cool. Now the coach is going Well, sit in the back.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Ugh. Well, he's not ready to go back coach. Like, you know?
Speaker Steve Suthers: No. Send the kids in the back.
Speaker Blake Burnard: He's homesick. He missed my cooking. He I'm sorry. No. And for those of you guys listening, if you did not I I don't know if if basketball, baseball, I never got to that level where you're playing year round or whatever. Football because the season is, what, ten to thirteen games, really. At that level, two weeks is eternity. That's twenty percent of regular season.
Speaker Steve Suthers: You have guys, like, those big linemen, and those big but I remember we had a big country lineman, big tackle, and he was starving. I used to give him he was my lineman, so I'd give him my, I can meat. I didn't wanna eat that crap. I would you have my canned meat, and he would eat it.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Oh, it's been a canned meat guy. Steve. Really?
Speaker Steve Suthers: And big have you ever seen one of those big Ken meats?
Speaker Blake Burnard: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker Steve Suthers: And he would eat it, but he was country. So that it was no big deal for him. And he would eat that, and he would cry every day. And he got on a bus and went home because he and he went home because he said he was hungry. Now, we were a little poo butt JC The coach was making a boatload of money because it was all, prop thirteen athletes that were hitting there. So the coach was driving around in their BMW, living in a big giant house, But we were starving.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Right.
Speaker Steve Suthers: And he got so the coach I remember the coach going, Hey, what happened to him? I go, he got on a bus. He went home. He goes, you guys are trying to stop him. I was like, I think I was nineteen. I'm like,
Speaker Blake Burnard: Yeah. What he wants to do? Yeah. Little bit different circumstances.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Yeah. Right? But now you're talking about this is a major d one. Major d one, he's not sovereign in a major d one. So it's not hungry. No. He probably not he's probably at least a three to four star recruit. It's probably never been punched in the mouth. Remember we talked about that last week? Mhmm. Getting punched in the mouth. And all of a sudden, you're going, I'm not good enough. I have to stand behind this guy. Mhmm. And the reality is I have to stand behind this guy. I mean, you hear the rock. The rock talks about it all the time. This dude is famous, rich, and has a great life, and he will fall back to Miami, and then Warren Sapp showed up.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Yes. Exactly.
Speaker Steve Suthers: I thought it was Dewey's year. Sat walked in the door, and I was like, oh, and I he was just a utility man.
Speaker Blake Burnard: The part that really bugs me about this is that okay. So I see kids doing it in high school, and I see kids doing it really at every level. And, and as a parent, I would not allow my child to to quit.
Speaker Steve Suthers: I'm getting ready to one up. You keep going.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Even if he stayed on campus and was just like, hey, mom and dad. I'm not coming home or anything. I'm staying here. I'm just quitting football, and I'm just gonna focus on my studies. Whatever. I still wouldn't allow that habit to manifest in my child. There's I I can't think of a worse trait than quitting. You know?
Speaker Steve Suthers: I'm gonna wind up you in Speaker Blake Burnard: that conversation.
Speaker Steve Suthers: You said mom and dad. Right? What are the chances? There's no dad at home.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Oh, miss, probably pretty probably pretty high.
Speaker Steve Suthers: So now we have no dad at home. We've got no father figure. So we've got nobody to let and go get your butt back over there. Mhmm. Mom's gonna cuddle. I mean, mom's gonna I'm I'm oldest dirt, and my mom is I'm still mama's boy. My kid, the my sisters and stuff, they go, oh, that's number one. That's that's the favorite. I'm mama's boy. I'm mama's pride and joy. So now my mama's not a toddler, but my mama's pride and joy.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Sure.
Speaker Steve Suthers: So you most most
Speaker Blake Burnard: That's a good distinction there.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Most country folks, and I I don't, you know, be stereotypical. Forget me. The mother is the mother hen of the family. She takes care of him. She feeds him. There's a grandma somewhere involved. There there couldn't be a male somewhere involved because if he had a strong male role model, strong male role model will be like, Hey, come on. Let's talk about it and we'll just drive back. We'll sit down with the coach. Absolutely. See, that would be my first thing, like, Hey, you can't quit. You started this. Mhmm. Write it out. Just write it out, see how the year goes. If it sucks at the end of the year and you're not getting what you want, come home, we'll find you another place to play.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Yeah. And that's an astute observation. We we don't know what's going on at this kid's home, but generally speaking, when you see men, boys, that that is a man we're talking about without that kind of backbone. It's usually the home that's lacking that backbone. And that's been my experience gave both as a player and now as a coach having trained over twelve hundred athletes. The kids who have the biggest issue with this are kids from broken families. So splitting time between houses or they never see dad, whatever, but he's not there twenty four seven. Or I've also seen incredible softness from, kids where the dad is like a a doctor that works from 8AM to 8PM, and on call surgeon, and I don't mean to pick on doctors or anything, but, you know, professionals that are away from home all the time. It doesn't matter.
Speaker Steve Suthers: They've never played sports that they're not in student sports.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Sure.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Sure. My, GB won. He was playing baseball. And, I'm out there. I paid for the season. I'm out there and I'm playing background. Mom and dad are sitting there. My daughter wants him to be an athlete because it's in her bloodline. She's like, he's gotta be an athlete. He gets tired and comes over. And I'm like, boy, you can't be tired. Your team's still out there.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Yes.
Speaker Steve Suthers: You have to go out there with your team. You get to come drink water when you guys come in, you gotta go back. Watching his dad coddle him. I wanted to hit him in the back of the head with my shoe. Like, he was coddling him more than my daughter. And my my daughter, you know, my daughter was raised by me, so she's a little more manly. And I was just like, Tell your son to go back out there, man. You can coddle him later on, but you're setting him up, not, you know, somebody's got going to depend on that young man.
Speaker Blake Burnard: You either coach it to happen or you allow it to happen?
Speaker Steve Suthers: Because he's And I I always talk when I talk to kids, I'm like, like, my girlfriend's son. He's always mad because I make him pick out the trash. I make him do certain things. I tell him. I said, at some point in life, you're going to be a man. I get on my nephews the same way I'm like, at some point in life, you're gonna be the man. Don't ever let your mom hit the door. Don't ever let your mom gas up the car. You make sure you you do all these things, because at some point, you're going to be somebody's man. And as a man, you're supposed to do these things. You know, I don't want to get up at three in the morning and go outside to see what the dogs are barking at.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Yep.
Speaker Steve Suthers: But by responsibility. Yeah. The the the car the car's got a flat tire? I don't wanna go change the tire. But guess what? My responsibility because I'm the man of the house, and that's what I'm there for. So I I think this young man doesn't have it. And and, like you said, The mom, and I don't I hate to pick on the mother. It's just because her name comes in there, and she her name's in there, and she didn't get her son to go back. Somebody is setting this young man up for a lot of failure in his life.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Yeah. Where else is gonna pop up?
Speaker Steve Suthers: Because and I'm not even talking in a sports world. Mhmm.
Speaker Blake Burnard: You
Speaker Steve Suthers: get any type of job Yeah. You don't show up to your job for two weeks. You do not have a job. You're not fired, so you can't get unemployment. You have abandoned your post. Mhmm. You have voluntarily quit, especially if I've called you a couple times. Hey, man. You coming to work. Hey, man. You coming to work. Next week schedule. You're not on there. I'm not calling you no more. You show up, hey, I'm here to work. Yeah. Oh, well, we got somebody to fill your position. You volunteer I mean, it's it's in the book voluntarily abandoning your position. So you are teaching this young man how to check out a life instead of stepping into life. If he needed therapy, then where was the counseling?
Speaker Blake Burnard: Oh, and they're so supported in that regard at these major Power Five schools.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Yes. And that's why, and that's why, come come back to the school where we have psychologists here. We don't have a problem with you young, man, and that's what the coach was like, bro, you didn't. I mean, did you listen to the conversation? Did you listen to the whole speech? Did you go to the part where he talked? No. No. No. He's literally he's literally telling him, you ghosted me. We were trying to get you so we could see what's wrong with you. You ghosted me. Like, he's just, like, and very, like, we tried to get you. So like you said, they got somebody to talk to you.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Yes.
Speaker Steve Suthers: They have sports psychologists. You know? You you're on a school campus. You have a counselor.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Mhmm.
Speaker Steve Suthers: I can walk over This is not a Rinky duke junior college. This is not a d two. This is not a lower d one. This isn't this isn't an H. H. B. U. This is a major division one school.
Speaker Blake Burnard: And even regardless, I wouldn't let my my child quit junior college. Middle of the season, dude, no way. You know, like, hey, I understand if your interest change, whatever, but it's not it goes back to that old, like, euphemism or whatever, I didn't raise a quitter, you know.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Oh, okay. Speaker Blake Burnard: Like, that is that is.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Okay. Cool. You you don't wanna play sports no more. You, you level it out. You realize you're not good enough, and you just hate sitting on
Speaker Blake Burnard: the bench.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Okay. What are we gonna do? Yeah. That's the next question. Exactly. So what are you gonna do? You said you wanted to go to college and play football? What are we doing? Because you're not sitting on my couch. Because I
Speaker Blake Burnard: That's a whole different conversation. You're absolutely right.
Speaker Steve Suthers: You're eighteen years old? School or get yourself some sort of p t?
Speaker Blake Burnard: The only thing that's gonna develop people as humans is engaging in activities that stretch them. And that's why I think sports are so cool. They're so challenging in so many ways. There's so many, and so many, an infinite amount of diverse I'm sorry, adversities that you can encounter. You know, just having to overcome, like Tom always says. Right? I think that's why they're sports have taught me more lessons than my than I ever learned in the home.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Still am driven by sports, and I'm not competitive anymore, but I had a dream the other day. I had it twice. And I was playing ball. And I stood up the guy, and then my legs gave out. I got pancaked, and I woke up, and I went, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, so I started squatting again. I started. She buys like, oh, no. No. No. No, god. You're trying to tell me something that.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Sure.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Alright. Let's start walking back, and I'm starting to walk back again.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Because, like, you're getting
Speaker Steve Suthers: paid to go back up to five hundred pounds. Ain't nobody walking through me again. Yep. That is I I spent my whole life not to get walked through.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Come on. And
Speaker Steve Suthers: it's just from that competitive edge, and you learned, you'll learn to overcome. You learn people skills, you learn camaraderie, you learn how to be a better man, just cross the board.
Speaker Blake Burnard: My wife really wanted to, homeschool our kids. And, and I had absolutely no qualms about But I was like, if that's what we're gonna do, we have to find other activities that they're gonna engage and they're gonna stretch them on a regular basis. Hey, I don't want them to become the weird, you know, the the socially kind of in it. Yeah, one hundred percent. Because we know enough of those. But also, you know, I
Speaker Steve Suthers: You gotta get people skills.
Speaker Blake Burnard: You have to get people skills and people challenge you. There is nothing that stretched me more as a business owner than dealing with people. And that's gonna be the rest of their lives. You know? So if you did so if this player doesn't like something it'll miss, I mean, what are we propagating? Letting kids.
Speaker Steve Suthers: What happens when he gets his first job? What happens when he gets his first girlfriend?
Speaker Blake Burnard: How about marriage? You just get to quit?
Speaker Steve Suthers: I was getting ready walk right in the middle.
Speaker Blake Burnard: I literally so when I address this with my with and, again, there was a step system involved. I don't want anybody to freaking, you know, litigate or anything like that. But, like, This this this employee that I had to let go, it was an escalation of events. And I think it was, like, the second or third meeting we had about, it was just we're repeated calling out. And I was like, dude, you're not dependable. From a team perspective, you're not dependable. Do I get to call out on being a dad? Do I get to call out on being a husband? Do I get to just call out anytime that you need me. Right? I will never do that. Hell or High Water, I'm there.
Speaker Steve Suthers: You know, you know, what's the famous line people like to say in when in their break up? We need we need to take a break. No. We need to work through it.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Man.
Speaker Steve Suthers: Because if you're taking a break, that means I'm stressing you out and I'm stuck in limbo.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Yeah. But if
Speaker Steve Suthers: either we work through it, we go go our separate ways, it started a new life. And and it's just, like I said, the young man, you're you're teaching him to quit on life. Yes. Like I said, do I want again He might be the most stressed out person his his favorite grandpa, favorite uncle could have died. I don't know the circumstances. But the baseline we're we're we're trying to get across is you just can't walk out without letting somebody know. There are people that wanna help you. So if you're dealing with a mental issue, and you have problems. Don't just walk out. Don't get coddled. Don't find somebody. Okay. It's good to go lay in your head on your mother and cry a little bit, but at some point, you have to step up because your problems are gonna wait for you in the morning. Like, when I was not when I when I was an alcoholic, and I drank a lot. It was to get away. It was an escape escapism, but guess what was waiting every day? It was there. So sooner or later, you have to face your problem.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Keep, come on, man. You have
Speaker Steve Suthers: to face, whatever it is that you're trying to duck your head from, it doesn't go anywhere. And the longer you ignore it, the bigger it gets. So if you're not able to face it yourself, you have to go find help to help you face it, where to be a pastor, a coach, counselor, you know, group therapy. Something has to help you overcome. I mean, football to me. Whoa. I'm mad. Wait till Sunday comes. Oh, wee. Woo, we gonna have some. I'm, well, I'm upset. I didn't hit somebody. It was good. I mean, that's when I kickbox, it was like, Alright. Cool. I remember going being angry and just going in. Like, I'm not sparring today, but I'm gonna go beat the snot out the bag for an hour because I and you just the sweat, and it's just and it's just, like, men, we, we, decompress different. We need to get that you know, testosterone out, like, with, like, throwing phones. We gotta do things that, like, it's that moment that you need that man moment And there's nothing like competition and taking your man moment, football's legal violence. Like, where can you legally go and beat somebody up? Get up and hug and kiss and be like, brah, good game, my guy. I really had fun hitting you today. And now you're like, I need a hot I need to go sit in a cold tub, go find a sauna, where's the massage table I need to eat. Yeah. I'm gonna crap up later.
Speaker Blake Burnard: This is I don't I don't mean for this thing to take a dark turn, but you you talked a little bit about your testimony. You know, before I knew the lord, coming out of one of the darkest, darkest. I was in the middle of, actually, the darkest year of my life, nineteen years old. I had literally nothing going for me because I was out of football. And, kind of in the interim between, high school and college. And one night, when it got to its absolute darkest moment, I was sitting on found myself sitting on the train tracks in my truck, waiting for a train to come because I was ready to quit. And, none of my friends came to my aid. No. None of that stuff. I wish I had a cool story where someone just, you know, totally redeem me. Wasn't that wasn't even Jesus at the time. That came later. Praise God, but, at that moment, the only thing that me off was just an unwillingness to, like, I was like, okay. That was a really stupid moment. I'm I'm not really quitting.
Speaker Steve Suthers: You know
Speaker Blake Burnard: what I
Speaker Steve Suthers: mean? At nineteen year old, sixteen, fifteen, everybody's thought about, man, I don't wanna be here no more. Yeah.
Speaker Blake Burnard: It's fine. I was such a sad chap.
Speaker Steve Suthers: But, you know, at the end of the day, what happened was self pre prevalent, preservation came on it like this. Pro. Hey, we like us, bro. Get off the trade tracks.
Speaker Blake Burnard: That's right. Hey, I'm like, I'm still me. You know what I mean? And and I still wanna be me. You know? And so, it's just one of those things. I have a really hard time, relating to, but man if I'd quit, think of all the amazing things that I would have missed out on. You know what I mean? So anyways, all that to say, you know, we, as believers, you know, I one of my most common, common prayers, and this is probably the easiest thing I could possibly pray is that the lord would just, like, open doors that are be open and close the ones that are meant to be closed. And I have zero control over that, and I'm totally good with this. You know what I mean? But if I close those doors myself, bro. Think, just imagine, you know, the the the catastrophe that could befall me.
Speaker Steve Suthers: And that's one of the beautiful things about about being a chosen child of the lords. I tell people all the time, we get caught up and thinking prayer has to be on knees and it's some grand spectacle.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Mhmm.
Speaker Steve Suthers: No. He's the the the Bible literally says he's all around. You can if you don't have anybody to talk to, just get in your car, talk to Jesus.
Speaker Blake Burnard: Come on, ma'am. I mean,
Speaker Steve Suthers: I'll just drive down the street, be like, woo. I got some things that I love before I get home. I'm a leave it all right here because you just gotta get it out. You gotta get the poison out, you know, you know, we when I tell people, I said, you know what? I'm not complaining. I just want the poison out. And you're an ear that that I can trust and I can get rid of the poison. I don't need you to I don't need any feedback from you. I just wanna give you
Speaker Blake Burnard: a minute.
Speaker Steve Suthers: I'll need feedback. I just wanted it out. Now I got it out. Man, high five. Let's go do something else.